High levels of protein in the urine are associated with rapid decline in kidney function. I was never on soylent more than a week consecutively, and even then only at ~70% of my diet, and I've also been tweaking my recipe throughout. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Kidney patients require a specialized diet that includes close monitoring of protein levels. Please if you have the time keep me updated on this. There is such a thing as too much protein, but you're fine. | Livestrong.com Many people worry whether using protein powder accelerates kidney damage, hair loss and acne. Often, stones form when the urine becomes concentrated, allowing minerals to crystallize and stick together.Passing kidney stones can be quite painful, but the stones usually cause no permanent damage if they're recognized in a timely fashion. However, it was still a very painful and unpleasant experience. Suddenly switching to 285+ grams of protein without giving the liver time to adapt can kill you. Especially given that the results turned up no sign of infection or other causes for the pain, and also showed inflammation of my kidney characteristic of someone who'd just passed a stone. So...the title ahould have been. My cousin is a nurse and once she found out I was drinking whey protein shakes daily she told me about how it can cause kidney stones. Im on my 9th. So today I’m going to talk about: Clinical evidence regarding protein intake and how it affects kidney function; If high protein is linked to kidney stones Protein is an important nutrient for building healthy body tissues. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Sorry, Anecdotal: According to my doctor, it may. The problem is that "sufficient knowledge" part. The fact that the pain is on both sides makes me extra skeptical, as the chances of developing and passing a kidney stone in both kidneys, at the same time, seems much slimmer to me (though not impossible). Did they give you a screen to pee in to catch the stone? Kidneys filter wastes created by the foods you eat to help to keep the right balance of nutrients and minerals in your blood and in your body. 170g protein shouldn't hurt you unless you're a very small person, and judging by the 3500 calorie goal, I don't think you're that small! But I've also learned long ago that the doctor is almost always right. 0.8 g/kg for sedentary, 1.4 g/kg for endurance, 1.8 g/kg for strength. Why I think it was probably not the soylent's fault: Kidney stones take at least 3 months to form, and often much longer than that (years), and I only started soylent 2 - 3 months ago. That's what the official diagnosis was, printed on my release form. Animal proteins have a much higher bioavailability than plant proteins. All discussion of products, recipes, and research concerning nutritionally complete foods is welcome. Good luck I hope its only the one. Most of my patients got a stone because they ate too much of any one or two foods on their restrictive diets. After doing so, my liver function started slowly going back to normal. Chronic kidney disease (CKD) patients should consider adding more plant-based proteins such as beans and tofu to their diet. I'll update if I find out. http://discourse.soylent.me/t/protein-powder-and-kidney-stones/15993. Always modified from original recipe. Major dietary factors contributing to increased risk of kidney stones includes chronic dehydration and megadoses of Vitamin C. I personally plan to continue using my DIY soylent, because it has been in every other way fantastic (I've so far dropped from ~9% body fat down to ~7%, while adding more lean muscle mass, saved lots of time and money on groceries, etc.). Skinny, 23 Year old Male with Kidney Stones: What do I eat? "The claim that protein intake leads to kidney stones is another popular myth that is not supported by the facts. What kind of stone was it, calcium or uric? Thanks, and while it's true that I don't think it's because of the soylent, that's just my opinion and I'm not a doctor or nutritionist (nor am I entirely sure). Your caloric and protein goals seem a little excessive and you're not going to put on more muscle with that excess - you'll gain the same amount of muscle but also a bunch of fat, necessitating a cut later (which trust me, sucks). Former Mr. Olympia Lee Haney never consumed protein powders and got all his protein from food. So there was no stone in your CT scan? First understand that one cannot really consume enough protein to harm one two young healthy kidneys. How can you have a kidney stone with no stone? However, they are hard on your kidneys especialy if you have kidney disease you should avoid them and opt for plant based sources. The uric stones are dark in color and jagged sons of a bitch. Kidney Stone Details: I am a mid-20's white male (surprisingly making me the most at-risk demographic for kidney stones, which is white males aged 20 - 50). As for protein, I'm using this vanilla rice protein, which is the same stuff that anyone eating schmoylent or a variant has been using, without (to my knowledge) any negative side-effects. I listed the rest of the micros in a reply to /u/chrisbair above. I'd guess calcium, since that's the most common, and while it was painful, it wasn't completely debilitating "I feel like I want to die" pain (as I'd guess comes from the more jagged ones). I am now 19 and I was thinking about switching to a soylent diet because I'm concerned about the nutrition I'm currently getting on my very stereotypical college diet. As far as I remember, human protein intakes up to 3g/lb/day have been studied and been shown to have no negative effects. I have done I think 5 independent (non-consecutive) weeks of soylent total, spread out over 2 - 3 months. This is something I've been struggling with since I had surgery last October to remove an 18mm beast of a stone in my right kidney. They originate in your kidneys but can be found at any point in your urinary tract. Although my personal experience is a non-scientific study of ONE, consumers of protein shakes and energy bars should be aware that these convenient edibles can increase your risk for kidney disease and/or kidney stone formation (uric stones). While oxalates can directly affect thyroid health in some cases by binding to the thyroid gland, probably the biggest concern associated with high oxalates is the risk of developing kidney stones. Assuming you are a 200lb male, that would be 600g/day. My own blends, initially based off people chow, then later (and majority of the time) based off schmoylent. CT scans did not show any stones in my kidneys, but showed inflammation of the kidney, which, combined with my self-reported symptoms, led the doctor to conclude that I had almost certainly passed kidney stones. I have been using DIY soylent on and off for about 2 - 3 months. Diagnosis was confirmed by doctors. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Keto Chow Creator (yes, I eat it every day). Oxalates are naturally present in our bodies. But, to be completely faithful to the objective facts, kidney stones were never 100% confirmed. They are often at an increased risk for other health complications as well, including high blood pressure and heart disease. Dietitians encourage the inclusion of plant-based protein sources in a kidney stone diet… Maybe additional potassium Citrate will help, you should research it. I suffered from Kidney stones so to avoid overdoing protein to fibre intake I'm wondering what foods I should focus on to gain weight and not stones. Basically, I think the doctor believed that I had already passed the stone prior to the CT scan (or at least, the stone had passed most of the way down the ureters and possibly into the bladder area, which I don't think gets imaged). I drink around 2 to 5 liters of water a day, depending on activity level. Smoothies have a high concentration of oxalates, and about about 80% of kidney stones are made up of calcium oxalate. Although there are reports that say whey protein can cause kidney stones, the truth is that it doesn’t. A high-protein diet also reduces levels of urinary citrate, the chemical in urine that helps prevent stones from forming. With a personal history of kidney stones, I started to get concerned that my morning smoothie might be putting me at risk. There's no way to cheat that without drugs. """elevated levels of protein can also cause kidney damage, liver problems, kidney stones, excess fat gain, contribute to the damaging of the lining of artery walls, lead to plaque build up in arteries, result in lethargy, diminish bone density, and cause a host of other health problems.""". Yeah, I totally agree. Fish amd other meats. Limit animal protein: Eating too much animal protein, such as red meat, poultry, eggs, and seafood, boosts the level of uric acid and could lead to kidney stones. The kidney stones unusually prone to some forms of kidney stones, specifically calcium, are you getting daily me. 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